“‘You are beautiful like demolition. Just the thought of you draws my knuckles white. I don’t need a god. I have you and your beautiful mouth, your hands holding onto me, the nails leaving unfelt wounds, your hot breath on my neck. The taste of your saliva. The darkness is ours. The nights belong to us. Everything we do is secret. Nothing we do will ever be understood; we will be feared and kept well away from. ..It’s you and me in this room, on this floor. Beyond life, beyond morality. We are gleaming animals painted in moonlit sweat glow. Our eyes turn to jewels and everything we do is an example of spontaneous perfection. I have been waiting all my life to be with you. My heart slams against my ribs when I think of the slaughtered nights I spent all over the world waiting to feel your touch. The time I annihilated while I waited like a man doing a life sentence. Now you’re here and everything we touch explodes, bursts into bloom or burns to ash. History atomizes and negates itself with our every shared breath. I need you like life needs life. I want you bad like a natural disaster. You are all I see. You are the only one I want to know.”— Henry Rollins (via ramonaray)
I’m a feminist, but I’ve never understood the argument about porn exploiting women. I think Kimota-sage and I had this argument once and I slapped him lololol. Yeah that was wrong…but he said he didn’t even feel it. XD Needless to say, I think he’s reformed his opinion on the subject.
Anyway, if it is exploitative to women, it’s exploitative to men as well. But it doesn’t have to be. Plenty of porn stars love their career and what they do, and feel it is empowering. So why is this even an issue?
Prostitution on the other hand is a whole different issue and should never be lumped in with pornography. Unless of course these women are of age and consenting, which is rarely the case.
sex slavery ≠ all prostitution… many prostitutesedit [see reblogs for why]: sex workers are of age and consenting. True, economic pressures might be the reason many of them chose that line of work, rather than an overwhelming love for sex work- but that is true for many of us even in non-sex work employment so there shouldn’t associated shame. Working at a job I’m not head over heels in love with does not necessarily mean me, or my body, are being exploited. Do you have any citation for of age, consenting sex workers (which are sometimes men, as well) being “rarely the case”??
Obviously sex slavery and that type of exploitation is a huge issue but it’s not a reason to decry all non-porn sex work. But both porn and non-porn sex work are types of sex work so at some points they will be lumped together. And to be honest, we could make the same generic statement about porn… not everyone gets into it because they are enthusiastic sex workers, although that is the case for many. Not everyone you see in those videos really wants to be there… for some people, it is just a way to pay bills. Which is fine. And if you look into the reality of “porn star life,” most of them do not make enough money from porn alone to live by (not everyone is a huge star), and some use porn as advertisement for other work they do- usually other varieties of sex work such as stripping or non-porn sex work.
There’s a difference between saying all porn is exploitative, and some of it is. Because some of it definitely is. It’s not equally exploitative of men because the exploitation occurs in how the porn is produced- it’s not a result of the porn simply existing. In most porns, the camera is framed from a heterosexual male point of view, which continues to push “the male gaze” as the only gaze allowed in society. If you watch mainstream- i.e., the average porn, not a specifically woman-friendly or queer-friendly etc. porn produced by consciousious companies- you will find that the camera is focused on the woman, and the woman’s body parts, the majority of the film. It will often focus on the face of the woman but rarely on the man’s. The majority of actresses will fit the societal ideal of “the perfect woman,” yet the actor rarely does. The porn almost always concludes (in hetero porn, which is the majority of mainstream) when the man comes, rather than anything mutual, or the woman does.
Showing porn from “The male gaze” isn’t an evil thing, but when sexuality is always posited as something we view through the male lens, it alters our perception of sexuality and of our own (women, if you are one) bodies and that of other women. Think of how often you see a woman’s body part or silhouetted outline used to convey that a product is generically sexy; think of how often you’ve seen a man’s body used for marketing in the same way… even when we’re dealing with non-gendered products. Other issues with porn include unrealistic portrayals of sex and sexuality, which can be a problem when people are exposed to porn on a daily basis (and from an early age, before they are sexually active with real people) and eventually come, subconsciously, to expect “porn behavior” from real relationships. Men sometimes expect women to always want sex, to always have shaved parts, to always be okay with anal sex (which is pretty much standard in porn today, yet is something that should usually be first discussed and consented to in a real sexual relationship) as well as other acts, because these things are matter-of-course in porn. And in this way it can be a disservice to anyone, not just women. Idk. I’m not like a porn expert and this is all just a brief overview, but if you google it there are a LOT of good sources for this topic as it relates to feminism… it’s definitely not a simple matter of “it has people having sex together consensually, so it is bad,” because that isn’t the problem- the way it tends to operate is. And there definitely are very great porns out there that are non-exploitative, it just takes a little searching.
And if someone finds their job or sexual act empowering, that’s great, but that doesn’t always equate to it necessarily being 100% good as something for everyone to view on a public stage. What is empowering for you isn’t always empowering for the average viewer, or all women, or all men, simply because it is a consented to sexual act- and that’s okay. It can still be self-empowering. But that doesn’t make it holy and untouchable as a discussion topic.
”[…] It’s important to remember that idealization of the form is not the same as sexualization of the form. Something can be idealized without being sexualized. But in superhero comics, because the forms that female characters are based on have their roots in porn and models, the form becomes even more sexualized once it is idealized to perfection. Is there anything wrong with perfection in fictional stories? No. Is there anything wrong with superheroes being beautiful sexual beings? Of course not. Is there anything wrong with titillation for the sake of titillation? No, not in the right context. But because the vast majority of female superheroes are rendered this way, it leaves context out. It becomes ALL about titillation and sex, regardless of context. And that creates a problem. And it’s one of the many ways that anyone interested in looking at things objectively can see that…No, this is not equal.”
“True gender equality is actually perceived as inequality. A group that is made up of 50% women is perceived as being mostly women. A situation that is perfectly equal between men and women is perceived as being biased in favor of women.
And if you don’t believe me, you’ve never been a married woman who kept her family name. I have had students hold that up as proof of my “sexism.”
My own brother told me that he could never marry a woman who kept her name because “everyone would know who ruled that relationship.” Perfect equality – my husband keeps his name and I keep mine – is held as a statement of superiority on my part.”—
Also the study where they had women and men talking in a discussion and when women spoke around 30% of the time, men perceived them as dominating the discussion. They didn’t consider it “equal” until something like 5-10% of women talking.
“I don’t want to be a feminist anymore. Like a five-year-old, I want to close my eyes, stick my fingers in my ears, stomp my feet on the floor and scream “No! No, you cannot make me, I won’t, leave me alone!” I am, simply put, too tired. So very, very tired. I am tired of fighting with my friends. I am tired of arguing that someone groping and slapping my butt isn’t “what I have to expect”, just because I’m at a bar, and the one attacking my butt has a drink in the other hand. I am tired of hearing “boys will be boys” and “when you’re dressed like that …” and “that’s just what guys do”. I am tired of trying to drown those sentiments in loud, repetitive no’s, screamed over and over again, till my throat is sore and my voice weak – just to hear them repeated, as soon as exhaustion threatens to silence me. I am tired of being afraid. I am tired of seeing someone writing something offensive, sexist, racist, ageist, ableist, somewhere online. I am tired of seeing those writings getting likes and lol’s, and SO TRUE’s. I am tired of being consumed by confusion and anger, typing, typing, typing and typing a seemingly endless response, including research, links and statistics, and then hesitate clicking “submit”. I am tired of knowing that I hesitate because I am afraid of the flood of responses that will come. I am tired of knowing that I will be bombarded with lighten up’s, stop whining’s and get a sense of humor’s for so long, that I will start to wonder if I am indeed wound up too tight, a nagger and humorless. I am tired of the fact that I’m afraid of being called a cunt, even though I don’t find genitalia insulting or demeaning.”
You do know that the games are shitting all over your beloved philosophy, right?
They’re like ‘here’s your Objectivist utopia, YOUR LACK OF LABOUR REGULATIONS CREATES A BITTER UNDERCLASS OF UNDERPAID WORKERS AND YOU END UP WITH A CIVIL WAR, YOUR LACK OF ETHICAL STANDARDS FOSTERS A SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY WITH NO REGARD FOR HUMAN LIFE, THE DRUG TRADE IS COMPLETELY UNREGULATED SO IT STILL HAS THE SAME PROBLEMS AS A BLACK MARKET, AND EVERYONE GETS HOPPED UP ON SLUG JUICE. THIS MAGIC COMBINATION OF FACTORS RESULTS IN A CITY POPULATED BY PEOPLE WHO ARE EFFECTIVELY DEPRESSED METH ADDICTS WITH SUPER POWERS, WELL DONE.’